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“I remember listening to a Metallica record when I was a kid, and a friend of mine said, ‘Dude, you think that’s nuts? Listen to Black Flag.’ So I did, and I was like, ‘Wow, man, how did I miss this?’
Right away, I was into Black Flag. I went to the old seven inches, and then it was Damaged and My War. On My War, they were sort of this darker band, with elements of Sabbath and free-jazz going on. Things were really wrong and bizarre, but it was on purpose, and that make them sound really right.
“Slip It In takes that even further. Aside from Ron Reyes becoming a better lyricist, Greg Ginn is really diving into experimental territory. I love the super out-of-key scales he plays, all the whacked-out licks. His stuff is herky-jerky and robotic and just completely weird. So many noise bands borrow from what he did.
“Ginn made sure that every Black Flag record was good but not too good. I think that added the off-kilter appeal and vibe. I’ve talked to people who worked with Greg, and they said, ‘It was all on purpose. All of that was intentional.’ The plan was that it was going to be subversive, ugly guitar playing – but also very beautiful in its own way. It’s like a puppy that so ugly, it’s cute.”