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“We like to do things in threes. Our first album we did with Chris Sheldon on an independent label and [the songs] had this vibe to them, and back then we were really trying our best to mix extremely weird stuff with pop elements.
"And then starting with Puzzle up to opposites we’ve really tried to go for that grandiose, over the top, tons of musicality and instrumentation and just trying to make some f**k-off rock records that are as big sounding as we can.
“I think we’ve achieved that. I think this will be our last effort at that. I don’t think we can do much better than we have on this one and I don’t think we can get any bigger, we certainly can’t add any more instruments. We’ll have a think and probably make a trio of a different style, it’s nice to mix it up.”