“They’re super to work with. I loved Australia. Great musicianship. I love the album we did, I know it fell through the cracks but it was a great experience. It was great to work with [orchestral arranger] Van Dyke [Parks]. He’s not a big man but he can command an orchestra very well. It was wonderful to do that, to follow the scores. I’d say my score reading is at remedial stage at best and being able to follow the score as it was going was a lot of fun. I had a blast.

"Daniel [Johns, vocals/guitar] is not a sonic guy, although with guitar sounds he knows what he wants to do. But he’s more, ‘This is what I want to come out at the end from what I’ve written and this has got to come through.' He got his first piano just before that album and wrote two or three songs on piano having just learned how to play piano. It was a real genesis moment; you don’t get to witness it too often.”