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“This is another Jonathan song," says Welch. "When he started working with us, we’d already been doing some stuff for a while. He was coming off the medications that he’d been on for two years, so he was something of a wreck. It was hard getting him in the studio at first – he had so much anxiety.
“To get him going, Don Gilmore told him, ‘Hey, just to get started, maybe come in and try something upstairs.’ That's how Jonathan came up with Never Never. When we heard it, it was really electronic. I didn’t hear a lot of guitar stuff that I could do on it ‘cause I was looking for some moshpit metal stuff. The rest of the guys and I didn’t know if it was going to make the record.
“Jonathan said that he wanted to finish it, so when I was on tour with Love And Death, Munky and Ray laid down their tracks. We still didn’t know about it, though. But Jonathan and Don worked on the vocals, and that’s when it clicked – the tune really came around. Everybody fell in love with it at that point.”