“The guys really loved my basic demo for the song and wanted to record it. It sounded very commercial, so of course, I wanted to try to make it a little more artsy – Sam is always kidding me about trying to be a cult artist. It was so funny: the guys were all excited about its accessibility, and meanwhile I’m bumming the whole day.

“We ended the session, and Chad asked me if he could take one of the guitars to his hotel. He took one of the JSA acoustics and came back the next day and said, ‘I wrote another part for the song, and I think it can work.’

“We stuck Chad’s part in, and it really did sound right for where the song was now headed. It also triggered something in Sam for his vocals - he found something he could sing. We then took my idea for the chorus and moved it to the end.

“Later on, when Sam was singing the chorus, it seemed as if his melody was over another chord progression - I don't know why, though. I found the part in the musical performance that had the chords, cut and pasted them, and it worked out. Then Mike and Chad decided they wanted to do their parts over again. A lot of effort went into this one.

“When Sam and Mike did their vocals – wow, pretty intense! A classic sound. I have to admit, the guys were right about this song: it is pretty cool to listen to.”