“A lot of good songs on this record. Black Blade is one I wrote, and then there’s Divine Wind, which Buck wrote during the Iran hostage crisis. The Marshall Plan we wrote in a room together. That was our first video, actually – we were still a year before MTV, but people were already anticipating there would be new ways of presenting music.

“Martin Birch is a great guy. I don’t know how we got him to produce – I think it was through our management – but we really enjoyed working with him. He was a bit of a madman, one of the boys, but super cool to deal with. Lots of fun.

“Aside from Marshall Plan, we were all writing independently. Everybody would bring in cassettes and say, ‘Here’s my song – what do you think?’ The record stands up as one of our better ones.”