“There was a movie called Teachers with Nick Nolte, and we were asked to write some songs for it. We never saw the film, but we were given a script. I wrote a song called Rebel, Buck wrote something called Summa Cum Laude, and Joe wrote a track called Double Talk. The songs never made the movie or the soundtrack, but they are on the 40^th anniversary box set.

“The punchline to all of this is that Buck liked the music to my song Rebel, so we took that, Buck came up with a new melody, we got new lyrics, and it became the song Shadow Warrior. So we basically used what the people behind the movie didn’t want.

“Jim Carroll was a friend of the band, Allen’s friend mostly, and he contributed words to the song Perfect Water. When you’re in a band, you wind up being friends with other bands and artists. It’s funny how we were looked down on by some critics, but we were respected by the punk rock artists they championed. We’ll probably never be in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, though.”