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The painful truth about Guns N' Roses new album
The MusicRadar Team, Fri 21 Nov 2008, 12:03 pm UTC
After 15 plus years and $13 million spent, Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy is finally out on Sunday 23 November. So, what is it really like?
Three MusicRadar staffers (Chris Vinnicombe, Joe Bosso and Michael Leonard) listened to Chinese Democracy separately – so as not to influence each other – and these are our honest opinions of the world's most expensive album ever. We didn't compare opinions before writing.
If you are a diehard Guns N' Roses fan – or Axl Rose himself – you may want to look away now.
Or better still, tell us if we're wrong...
Chinese Democracy
"A punchy, if over-processed riff drives along nicely. Axl's voice sounds great in the verses, recalling his Appetite-era menace. The shouty choruses might have benefited from a little more melody and the soloing is tedious. But a solid enough opener." CV
"Decent riff, Axl sings okay, but the lead guitars are too much. A stuttering, spluttering mess." ML
"A not-so-bad power chord riff announces 'We're off!' And then...we're not. The chorus is decent, but not memorable. And Axl's voice sounds like an impersonation. The guitar solo is flat and ultimately pointless." JB
Shackler's Revenge
"Is it 1993? Industrial-metal numbness, with guitar solos that sounds like a malfunctioning Nintendo. There's a tune here somewhere, lost in an insane mix." ML
"Hideous intro recalls mid-'90s video game soundtracks, and the industrial flavours are long past their use-by date. A shame because there's a decent tune fighting to get out here." CV
"Whoa, boy. That's some dated video game sounds for you. The guitar solos are literally fighting to be heard amidst the wannabe-techno clutter. Way too much going on here. If there was a song, it's lost." JB
"The guitar solos are mostly horrible. Can somebody call Slash please?"
Better
"The strongest melodies so far. Probably about two minutes too long though and the guitar solos are mostly horrible. Can somebody call Slash please?" CV
"I think this is better. It has a groove of sorts, as opposed to chucking 67 guitars at the problem of not-having-a-song. Best so far." ML
"The best song so far, which might be why it's called Better. Sadly, what could have been a strong tune wears out its welcome. Axl just doesn't know when to stop. Three tracks in and we have yet to hear a killer guitar solo." JB
Street Of Dreams
"The ripple of piano is ominous and it signals Axl entering lighters-aloft stadium ballad mode. Axl's been trying to be Elton John and Queen at the same time since Use Your Illusion."CV
"Overwrought, too many vox overdubs, too many strings, too much of everything. Awful." ML
"Where's the chorus? This is simultaneously too much and too little."
"The piano intro is the kind that is meant to signal 'This is my next November Rain.' Problem is, Axl throws the kitchen sink at us production-wise but he hasn't written a memorable song. Where's the chorus? It's simultaneously too much and too little." JB
To say I've lost respect for Michael Leonard as a reviewer is an understatement. The former editor of Guitarist magazine saying that Buckethead's solos are no good?
The general reviews here are poor just because all three reviewers are looking for Appetite For Destruction mk 2 - and that is completely ridiculous. If you want old school rock music with Slash's sound - go and listen to Velvet Revolver for gods sake. It isn't 1987.
This album sounds like the perfect natural progression from Use Your Illusions.
And using the phrase nu-metal to describe any of the songs is such lazy journalism that you should be ashamed.
At least websites like Rolling Stone recognised the quality in this album.
whiped?!?! i mean wiped.
Bang on reviews...I listened on the myspace yesterday and I dont think I managed to listen to a single track the whole way through. Utter shite. The solos, as you pointed out are totally uneccessary and tuneless, as are most of the songs in general. Occassionally there is a little of glimpse of potential in a lick or hook which are whiped out with devastating efficiency only a moment later by an empty and thin wail of a weakened Axl, or a ridiculously dated production quirk. The problem with the album taking so long to be made is that what may have been fairly revolutionary sound wise 10 years ago, now just sounds like a collaboration of all the musical genres that have either been forgotten out of sheer lack of interest, or worse still, condemned to the history books simply because they suck. This is an over-indulgent, tuneless mashup of industrial nu-metal, piano led singer-songwriting, and 80's shred pointlessness. It lacks focus, ingenuity or, sad as it is to say, any real showing of talent. I have said many times that Axl is a very talented songwriter under the constraining influence of Slash, Izzy and Duff, and this record serves to prove that without that, he is just a mess. I give it 1/10 simply for the occassional 10 second long glimpses or melody or inspiration. It was inevitable, and we knew it.
What are you on about? The whole album is amazing! It's just what the industry needs today. The album sounds very fresh and modern while maintaining the old vibe of GnR. The guitars sound excellent and so does Axl's voice.
You guys don't know what your talking about.
Well I liked it a bit better than you fellas, but I agree - way too much going on and the guitar solos are awful: although very technically proficient they have no soul or feel to them. Much like the songs in fact.
And yes, Axl's singing is not good.
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