The first Ashes Divide record was pretty much you and Josh Freese. Will the next one be more of a band effort?
“It’s gone through different evolutions, this one. There’s no set deadline for when it has to come out, so that will let an artist linger and overthink things. I’ve written a batch of songs that [bassist] Matt [McJunkins] and [drummer] Jeff [Friedl] have played, but I think that a good chunk of them will go to Perfect Circle. That’s the nice thing about the two bands sharing members. [Pauses] I haven’t really disclosed to them which songs are for which band.” [Laughs]
“Yeah, I’m working on the new material for Ashes, and I’m kind of doing it like in the old days – being a hermit, fleshing the things out and getting them to a certain point, and then I’ll bring them to a rehearsal place and have the guys play ‘em out.”
It’s interesting that you can write songs with the idea that either band might conceivably record them.
“It just comes down to ‘Where do you think it’s going to go?’ It was really just writing the next phase of APC; that’s where I’ve been designating these songs to go. But we’ll see. It really comes down to Maynard hearing them and feeling like he’s inspired or not, and will he find himself singing on them?
“It’s amazing what he can do with a complex arrangement and complex melodies that weave in and out. The first songs I gave him were The Hollow and Orestes, and with The Hollow I could barely see how that vocal was gonna go over this weird arpeggio thing. But there you go – he just did it. So we’ll see. With these things, they might go forward or they might not. It might be like old times, and he’ll find his path and weave the vocal around the music. Time will tell.”
A new APC record could still be a ways off – Maynard is in Tool-mode right now.
“He’s in Tool-mode. When he’s done, that just means there will be more skeletons and foundations of songs to be ripped apart or sung on. I’d like to have it ready, but I still want everything to be fresh. That’s sort of the challenge for me.”