“Simon Phillips is on drums. I had a bizarre connection with him because my dad used to play with his dad’s band. In fact, Simon, his dad and his mom used to live about two miles from where I’m sitting now in London. So I knew Simon when I was a very small child.

“My dad would take me to as many concerts as possible, and some of them were Sid Phillips concerts, with a then 13-year-old Simon Phillips playing in his dad’s band.

“When I heard There & Back, I thought, Yes… This is real rock drumming as it should be. It’s great feeling music, really great tunes, with Simon navigating his way beautifully and very stylistically around it all. At this point in 1980, I hadn’t seen him in a while, probably since 1973. A lot of time had passed, and now every drummer in England had heard of him and knew how great he was. He was just a drum god. A very compelling player.”