“That was a turning point for the band and maybe also our sound. Musically, the bass featured prominently in all of the songs but there was a lot more space on that track for the bass to come through.

I always loved songs with stories, both myself and Paul were influenced by Ray Davies in that way. It’s a harrowing tale to that song. It’s become a classic song. If my bass playing and my style hadn’t been established already, that put my style on the map.

“It was lucky it saw the light of day. Because there’s a lot of space Paul got frustrated with it in the studio and didn’t think I was working and it was Vic Smith the producer who suggested that we preserved with it and thankfully Paul did and calmed down.

“Guitar wise I started off [my career] with Rickenbacker 4001 then changed for the All Mod Cons album, just to try and get a different sound. I tried putting Fender Precision pickups in a Rickenbacker for more bottom end, but you can’t do it, it doesn’t work. I changed to a Fender Precision in the end and stayed with it.”