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Old 11-04-2009, 02:11 PM   #21
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Surely if you move the Am pent shape down 3 frets you get the Gm pent shape?
Nearly - you get the F# minor pentatonic which has exactly the same notes as A major pentatonic.
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:47 PM   #22
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Nearly - you get the F# minor pentatonic which has exactly the same notes as A major pentatonic.
Of course you do, I was including the the said root note.
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:06 PM   #23
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He means move the Cm shape down to Am, and it's the same as CMaj Pentatonic (esp. if you remember that the Root is onthe 8th fret)
Err no I didnt. What I meant was move any of the minor pent boxes down by 3 frets and you will have the same key MAJOR pent box.

Can you explain what you said a bit more Jal????
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:15 PM   #24
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Err no I didnt. What I meant was move any of the minor pent boxes down by 3 frets and you will have the same key MAJOR pent box.

Can you explain what you said a bit more Jal????
I *think* you're both saying the same thing. If you're playing a (e.g.) C minor pentatonic at the 8th position, you'll be playing the following:
Code:
----
----
----
8---
8-10
8-11
which corresponds to the following notes:

C Eb F G Bb.

If you move the same shape down 3 frets, you play the following:

Code:
----
----
----
5---
5--7
5--8
which are the following notes:

A C E D G

which are the notes of A minor pentatonic, or C major pentatonic.
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:44 PM   #25
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I *think* you're both saying the same thing. If you're playing a (e.g.) C minor pentatonic at the 8th position, you'll be playing the following:
Code:
----
----
----
8---
8-10
8-11
which corresponds to the following notes:

C Eb F G Bb.

If you move the same shape down 3 frets, you play the following:

Code:
----
----
----
5---
5--7
5--8
which are the following notes:

A C E D G

which are the notes of A minor pentatonic, or C major pentatonic.
Parallel minor! dont know why ,but I was automatically thinking relative minor pent.

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Old 11-04-2009, 07:07 PM   #26
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Parallel minor! dont know why ,but I was automatically thinking relative minor pent.
That's what it is... relative major/minor...

1. C major pentatonic and A minor pentatonic have the same notes.
2. C minor pentatonic is 3 frets above A minor pentatonic.

Therefore, by shifting any C minor pentatonic shape down 3 frets, you'll create C major pentatonic.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:17 PM   #27
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you'd get f#m not gm
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:46 PM   #28
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I *think* you're both saying the same thing. If you're playing a (e.g.) C minor pentatonic at the 8th position, you'll be playing the following:
Code:
----
----
----
8---
8-10
8-11
which corresponds to the following notes:

C Eb F G Bb.

If you move the same shape down 3 frets, you play the following:

Code:
----
----
----
5---
5--7
5--8
which are the following notes:

A C E D G

which are the notes of A minor pentatonic, or C major pentatonic.
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:59 AM   #29
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That's what it is... relative major/minor...

1. C major pentatonic and A minor pentatonic have the same notes.
2. C minor pentatonic is 3 frets above A minor pentatonic.

Therefore, by shifting any C minor pentatonic shape down 3 frets, you'll create C major pentatonic.
Cheers, Is it not C maj relative maj of Am, Cm parallel minor of C major ? even though the C major has the same notes as Am.? I may be confusing myself here
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Carfull when using the shifting down three frets. It's very tempting to use the same licks you would use when playing the minor pentatonic.

Making you sound like you are playing in F#m rather A Major.

I tend to go for a different shape and move that one up three frets

The normal Am pentatonic everybody starts with is

5 5 5 5 5 5
8 7 7 7 8 8

So shift that up to
2 2 2 2 2 2
5 4 4 4 5 5

But start on the 5th fret

However I use the next shape up the neck

Again Am

8 7 7 7 8 8
10 10 10 9 10 10

Move that down three frets

5 4 4 4 5 5
7 7 7 6 7 7

You will then natrually start your scale in the root (A) and will get a far more major feel compared your probably most familier Am shape
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