theory boffs help please!! course work deadline

[georgeguitars]

how does Fmin6 relate to the C major scale. i understand that the 5th degree of the C major scale is F major so please help me. please i have to hand this in tomorrow

[sam_m]

Context ?

The short answer is 'not very easily'.

If you're just on about the notes, I suppose it'd be constructed of 4, b6, 8 and 9 of the C major scale (F Ab C D) - but it's not diatonic. I'm not sure what the question is asking.

[digitalkettle]

Originally Posted by georgeguitars

how does Fmin6 relate to the C major scale. i understand that the 5th degree of the C major scale is F major so please help me. please i have to hand this in tomorrow

...and the 5th degree of C major is G!

F is the 4th, the subdominant...diatonically, you get F major (so you could also extend to a Fmajor6 chord).

[barney.]

yeah im not really sure what the question is asking either...it dosnt relate to me.. a Fmaj6would because itd diatonic to Cmaj ....or
a Cmaj scale with a Ab in instead of A would fit a Fmin6 chord ...the question dosnt seem clear though..hope this helps..

[georgeguitars]

yes thank you sorry i know the 5th degree is G. I dont know why i sed F. i belive i worked it out tho. it was a key change for one bar to C minor/Eb major

[rdmf48]

If you rearrange the order of the notes, you can create a number of chords However if you put the notes as C,D, F, and Ab, then you have Root(C), 9th(D), 11th(F), and flat 13th(Ab) - i.e. an extended chord without the 3rd, 5th, or 7th. Don't know whether this is anything like the answer your teachers are looking for.

[sam_m]

I still don't get it...

[sam_m]

Originally Posted by rdmf48

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Mmm that's an interesting way of looking at it, I didn't spot that straight away. But in that case, it'd never be called an Fmin6, unless this is just for an academic exercise, in which case it's silly.

Still, good shout.

[rdmf48]

They are in one way just 4 notes. Depending on the context, you can give these 4 notes a different name. If you order them D,F, Ab, C, then you would call the chord Dm7b5

Another example would be Cmaj7 followed by Gmin7. Gmin7 is G,B,D,F, the notes of which are the 5th(G), 7th(B), 9th(D), and11th(F) of a full C11 chord. So Gmin7 fits because you can view it as the top part of a C11 chord.

[sam_m]

Yeah, it's the original question I don't get.

I understand your stuff, I was just disappointed I didn't see it straight away as it's the sort of stuff I'm looking into at the moment. I am somewhat tired, but I should still have picked up on it.