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Lupacante · 06-20-2008, 06:18 PM

I've been told that with this system I can't change tuning or else I'll offset the bridge and the guitar won't stay in tune when I play in higher positions.

I've seen pedals which can change the tuning for you, although they're far too expensive for me.

A good friend told me that if you unlock the tuning locks at the top of the neck then changing the tuning whilst keep higher positions in tune becomes possible. However, some guy from a shop told me the opposite.

Now...can someone on this wonderful website please tell me who's right and who's wrong?

Another question: would you reccomend changing the floating tremolo with a regular one to solve my problem so I can finally learn to play Black Mountain Side (Led Zeppelin I)?

Thank you very much if you reply

Marco

jalapeno · 06-20-2008, 06:32 PM

It'd probably be ok as long as the trem was still floating.

What are you talking about Open D or something ?

I think the gain sayers are probably right in spirit if not in fact. You'd be far better off with a non-floyd trem guitar for that sort of different tuning malarkey TBH. S/H Squire or MIM Tele would be perfick.

Lupacante · 06-20-2008, 07:09 PM

DADGAD actually.

And what does TBH mean?

Lixarto · 06-20-2008, 07:25 PM

To Be Honest.

And I agree with Jal - you really need a fixed bridge guitar for this kind of stuff, a Floyd's far too much hassle.
I second his Telecaster suggestion (quelle surprise).

Zap

MattANJH · 06-20-2008, 08:46 PM

Bit of a rule of thumb with floyd equipped guitars. Have one guitar for each tuning you play in, and have a back up in case you break a string.

Niallmo · 06-20-2008, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lupacante

I've been told that with this system I can't change tuning or else I'll offset the bridge and the guitar won't stay in tune when I play in higher positions.

I've seen pedals which can change the tuning for you, although they're far too expensive for me.

A good friend told me that if you unlock the tuning locks at the top of the neck then changing the tuning whilst keep higher positions in tune becomes possible. However, some guy from a shop told me the opposite.

Now...can someone on this wonderful website please tell me who's right and who's wrong?

Another question: would you reccomend changing the floating tremolo with a regular one to solve my problem so I can finally learn to play Black Mountain Side (Led Zeppelin I)?

Thank you very much if you reply

Marco

Flloyd Rose trems are pretty much designed to make a single tuning as stable as possible. Therefore If you want to continually change tuning it takes a long time, every time. You will need to undo all the locking bits and retune all of the strings everytime and re-set the trem with the fine tuners as well. Either buy another term equipped guitar and keep it in the tuning you want or get a fixed bridge guitar which is quite simple to change tunings on cos it doesnt have a trem bridge..

Sir Axeman · 06-20-2008, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattANJH

Bit of a rule of thumb with floyd equipped guitars. Have one guitar for each tuning you play in, and have a back up in case you break a string.

That sounds potentially very very expensive.

Dr.One · 06-20-2008, 10:28 PM

I recently changed my Jackson DKMG, which has a licensed Floyd, from standard tuning to drop C (CGCFAD) and I did it without the need to adjust anything.

I used the site linked below to work out what string gauges to use. It calculated that a set of 10's with a 54 gauge 6th string in drop C has almost exactly the same tension as a set of 9's in standard tuning - about 1/2 lb less tension total, which didn't make any difference to the trem. The guitar stays in tune just as well as it did in standard tuning with 9's.

One thing I did find was, as I changed the strings one at a time, the slightly different tensions on each meant the tuning drifted as I brought each new string up to pitch. However once they were all on there it settled down and the next string change shouldn't exhibit this behaviour.

http://www.pacificsites.net/~dog/Str...ionApplet.html

Hope that helps!

wibble · 06-20-2008, 10:38 PM

A cheap option would be to block off your trem if you're going to be changing tunings all the time.

Or get a device like a tremolno
http://www.tremolno.com/

(I just happen to have one for sale

)

digitalscream · 06-21-2008, 01:32 AM

The ZR trem on the Ibby Sxx0 series works a treat for this sort of thing...

06-20-2008, 06:18 PM	#1
Lupacante Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 34	Changing tuning on an ibanez with floyd rose I've been told that with this system I can't change tuning or else I'll offset the bridge and the guitar won't stay in tune when I play in higher positions. I've seen pedals which can change the tuning for you, although they're far too expensive for me. A good friend told me that if you unlock the tuning locks at the top of the neck then changing the tuning whilst keep higher positions in tune becomes possible. However, some guy from a shop told me the opposite. Now...can someone on this wonderful website please tell me who's right and who's wrong? Another question: would you reccomend changing the floating tremolo with a regular one to solve my problem so I can finally learn to play Black Mountain Side (Led Zeppelin I)? Thank you very much if you reply Marco

06-20-2008, 07:25 PM	#4
Lixarto Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Eleven-Day Empire Posts: 15,697	To Be Honest. And I agree with Jal - you really need a fixed bridge guitar for this kind of stuff, a Floyd's far too much hassle. I second his Telecaster suggestion (quelle surprise). Zap __________________ Feel like Lazy Sadie She knows which way the wind blows

06-20-2008, 10:38 PM	#9
wibble Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Lestor Posts: 8,405	A cheap option would be to block off your trem if you're going to be changing tunings all the time. Or get a device like a tremolno http://www.tremolno.com/ (I just happen to have one for sale ) __________________ PSN id: psxguru PS3 games for trade/sale: FIFA 09, Midnight Club Los Angeles, Tomb Raider Underworld, Killzone 2 Click for current stuff on ebay for sale

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06-20-2008, 07:09 PM	#3
Lupacante Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 34	DADGAD actually. And what does TBH mean?

06-20-2008, 08:46 PM	#5
MattANJH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wigan Posts: 3,391	Bit of a rule of thumb with floyd equipped guitars. Have one guitar for each tuning you play in, and have a back up in case you break a string.

06-20-2008, 10:28 PM	#8
Dr.One Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 191	I recently changed my Jackson DKMG, which has a licensed Floyd, from standard tuning to drop C (CGCFAD) and I did it without the need to adjust anything. I used the site linked below to work out what string gauges to use. It calculated that a set of 10's with a 54 gauge 6th string in drop C has almost exactly the same tension as a set of 9's in standard tuning - about 1/2 lb less tension total, which didn't make any difference to the trem. The guitar stays in tune just as well as it did in standard tuning with 9's. One thing I did find was, as I changed the strings one at a time, the slightly different tensions on each meant the tuning drifted as I brought each new string up to pitch. However once they were all on there it settled down and the next string change shouldn't exhibit this behaviour. http://www.pacificsites.net/~dog/Str...ionApplet.html Hope that helps!