Theory...How much do you need to learn???..

[RadioElectric]

I think once you play a bit you'll start wanting to know the theory behind it. That's the "correct" approach in my opinion.

If you start with learning the theory then you'll be learning it as an abstract concept rather than as something related to the way you play the guitar.

[jalapeno]

How much ?

As much as you need, and then some more. It's an ongoing process, wish I'd really started paying attention 20-30 years ago !

[spawn]

Motto #1

Theorize what you practice, and practice what you theorize…

[frankus]

Originally Posted by Sir Axeman

I teach for a living, I dont know theory that deep say like a jazzer would (they are always anoraks/trainspotter types - you can tell 'em a mile off!)

Originally Posted by Sir Axeman

Even simple stuff like knowing the diatonic scale tone chords in each key.

Or "chords in the key" - as us Jazz Anoraks call em ...

[frankus]

Originally Posted by spawn

Motto #1

Theorize what you practice, and practice what you theorize…

I agree with the Sphynx... if you take stortcuts in your learning ... you're learning to take short-cuts... until you master theory, theory will be your master... practice music or your music will sound like practice...

[spawn]

Like nick said: you have to know what you want it for, are you doing it to learn songs, that would fall under the: apprenticeship and imitation-category, which is in effect a study of styles- I.E – learning your favorite band / bands-songs, although it is enormously important- in a musical understanding way, but it does not get you any closer in coming to grips with the problem of your own creative development / your own vocabulary.

If you want guidance that is more concerned with a study of the material of the art..
And less with the manner of its use then, it sounds like you want- the definition of musical sound, I.E.-to understand the derivation of any sonority, to be-able to analyze its component parts, with an understanding of its position-within the tonal cosmos (as-in the chromatic scale-that is..) This in turn will give you: a valid means of self-criticism of the logic and consistency of Motto #1.

[frankus]

Originally Posted by spawn

Like nick said: you have to know what you want it for, are you doing it to learn songs, that would fall under the: apprenticeship and imitation-category, which is in effect a study of styles- I.E – learning your favorite band / bands-songs, although it is enormously important- in a musical understanding way, but it does not get you any closer in coming to grips with the problem of your own creative development / your own vocabulary.

If you want guidance that is more concerned with a study of the material of the art..
And less with the manner of its use then, it sounds like you want- the definition of musical sound, I.E.-to understand the derivation of any sonority, to be-able to analyze its component parts, with an understanding of its position-within the tonal cosmos (as-in the chromatic scale-that is..) This in turn will give you: a valid means of self-criticism of the logic and consistency of Motto #1.

Hi, I've studied crypto-analysis - but I confess this is way beyond me. I'm guessing:

1) If you swap the words for pre-agreed words then the punctuation stays the same.
2) The punctuation gets swapped using a simple cypher system.

Obviously without knowing the cypher for punctuation symbols or a range of punctuation characters permitted I can't work out where the punctuation should go... and not knowing the words to replace .. I can't fathom the message so I'm left with some self-referencing mythical cheese. With authoritive-sounding-invented "self-discovery idiomatic topic markers" like "apprenticeship and imitation-category" or "consistency of Motto #1"...

Or English isn't your first language, in which case - my apologies

[bertie]

none - at all.

or loads, all of it.



both are correct.